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Wu-Tang Clan: Shaolin sedition?
By Jim Welte - MP3.com
November 8, 2007 at 12:36:00 PM | more stories by this author

Raekwon goes public with group's beef with RZA over new album, 8 Diagrams; suggests group could make follow-up without mastermind.

The Wu-Tang Clan is apparently in the midst of a mutiny.

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In a video interview on the Missinfo.TV blog yesterday, Wu member Raekwon gave the first comprehensive account of trouble brewing in Shaolin, saying that Wu mastermind RZA and the rest of the clan are at an impasse over their forthcoming album, 8 Diagrams, and that the rest of the group might make another album without the group's leader, founder, and producer.

The beef appears to center on creative control and allegations that RZA has been letting that dispute leak into the clan's business affairs, withholding money unless the group's members agree to allow 8 Diagrams to be released on December 11 as planned and in its current iteration.

Raekwon said the creative dispute is musical, with RZA looking to incorporate loads of guitar into the group's sound and the members not supporting the move but RZA sticking to the sounds regardless.

"We can never forget all the positive energy that he shared with us, but if your ears are f***ed up right now, and we don't like the way that you're doing business, you have to respect the fact that men are going to be men," Raekwon said. "Before I'm a rapper, I'm a man."

In an interview with Billboard, RZA responded to Raekwon's complaints, although vaguely.

"My idea with this album was to have an hour of your day be different--you go into this other world of beats, hardcore lyrics, and imagery of hip-hop," he said. "I wanted the listener to be stimulated by the music. I don't know if everybody agreed with it. Everybody has their own opinion. This is in my vision at the end of the day."

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Whether or not the Wu remains RZA's vision appears to be at issue. In his 2005 tome The Wu-Tang Manual, RZA described the group's inception in 1991, saying that he promised the members that if he had total control of the Wu-Tang empire, it would conquer the hip-hop world, after which he would relinquish his total control.

This isn't the first time the Wu has aired its internal drama. In 2004, U-God publicly accused RZA of stifling his solo career, but the two aired out their differences on a New York radio show and had patched things up.

Ghostface Killah also expressed frustration with the Wu-Tang operation last month, claiming he was asked to delay the December 4 release of his new album, The Big Doe Rehab, so the Wu-Tang album could come out that day instead. He added he hadn't been paid his share for touring with Wu-Tang this summer on the Rock the Bells tour.

"The hierarchy at Wu-Tang Clan is on some bulls***," Ghost told MTV News last month. "They trying to f*** around and make me push my album back and doing all this. But ni**as ain't give us money when we did them Wu-Tang tours...It's a battle right now. Ni**as better pay my f***ing money. Matter of fact, they can keep the money--just get me out of their life right now."


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this is cool
Posted 08/22/2009 2:27am
hoppen van pagina aan pagina bezig.
Posted 05/25/2009 1:18pm
Ou est la toilette?
Posted 05/25/2009 1:11pm
Quel est le prix de cette chemise?
Posted 05/22/2009 5:13pm
I perfectly understand were they coming from, I do trust RZA and I don't think a dramatic change would heart them much, but when Rae says that the video too mellow overall, and starts comparing to Neo-Soul... that's stuff starts heading to the wrong direction.

I truly believe that they should release a double disc album. One CD like RZA wants, and one CD more "Triumph-like," that's with hard bangers.

I hope they don't get too caught up in the controversy because they still need to support and advertise the album.
Posted 11/09/2007 9:43pm
Please, please, pleaase come to a compromise.

I can't imagine any Wu album without RZA's explosive and unique beats.
If they didn't want him to have all this power, why didn't they just have equal share and equal say in the beginning with a contract?

It's interesting that money always has to come between friends.
Posted 11/08/2007 9:01pm
thats apps and oranges man, RZA is the only sound i want to hear soem days. Birth of a prince is the best album ive heard in a while. last thing to really grab me since 421 came out...o he had some hands on that too huh? shi....if the Wu is thru then what a ride it was...i hope it all works out - but i also want RZA to ring me up and start a new empire hahahahha............
Posted 11/08/2007 4:26pm
Musically, the clan has grown so far apart that it's understandable that they don't want one man to be responsible for the groups sound. It's not like Rza is a hitmaker. he's respected but he's not Timberland. He should realize that at this point Wu as a group should be a collaberative effort. If he wants to do a Rza Presents... or something and have them on it, that's another story.

Only die hard fans (like myself) are checking for Rza beats right now.
Posted 11/08/2007 3:02pm
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