After Mellon Collie (which is my favorite album) the Pumpkins went down hill. Adore and Machina were listenable, then came Zwan which was a piece of crap... Now this. I'm sure you've heard that Corgan's voice is an aquired taste, but even a hardcore Pumpkins fan such as myself couldn't listen to this album without my ears begining to bleed. I'll give Billy a .5 for wearing a cool top-hat in his "Walking Shade" video.