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On Getting Into The Games Industry....And Failing Miserabley

This time next week I will 28 years old. Shortly there after, I will have been married for the some total of 2 months. So I am getting older and being all growed up, and now have a wife to think about as well as myself.

Like many people, I am searching for something though. Not happiness in love or anything as cheesy as that since I have already found it, but rather contentness in my job and career. I have never really thought of myself as particularly creative until the last few years, when I have been unable to scratch a growing creative itch, and it is getting annoying.

So, like a lot of people reading and using this very site, I have decided I want to go into the games industry and here is a short account of my attempts thus far. I have to point out at an early stage though, so far, I have not been successful, I am still working as an IT support analyst and not particularly enjoying it anymore. It's a good job don't get me wrong, but it is not what I want to do for the next forty years.

So for the last couple of years I have been applying for jobs as a QA tester for various companies, trying to get into the industry on a low grade footing and work my way up. Unfortunately, this has gone quite according to plan. The first interview I ever had I was suited and booted and ready to go, and I walked in immediately felt over dressed, since everyone else, including other interviewee's where in jeans and a shirt or t-shirt. Also insulted a game one of the interviewers made, so that wasn't so good. Alas, that job, at Kuju in Surrey, was not to be mine.

So I continued applying for other studios, eventually having a interview with Outrun 2006 developer Sumo Digital. Having learnt from my previous attempt, I attended the interview with a shirt and trousers, which I felt was a lot better and meant I wasn't as out of place, especially when one of the guys interviewing me walked in still wearing motorcycle leathers. The interview seemed to go well, though I still wasn't to get the job.

At this point I got more than a little bit determined, and started sending my C.V. into various Yorkshire studios on a regular basis (one to two month intervals). Eventually, this scored me a second interview with Sumo Digital, which again went well and the guys recognised me and we had a great informal interview. They told me they had a new round of tester roles coming up and I would be high on their list. I am still waiting to here from them, and that was coming close to 2 years ago now.

From that point on I have been scanning games industry job sites on a regular basis to find a suitable position, even taking the tactic of sending my c.v. in once a month for a as long as the QA position was listed on the studios site (sorry Rockstar leeds!). As you can probably tell I am getting a bit desperate here.

The reason I chose to tell you about this so far unsuccessful venture is because on Saturday, I had a very nice chap come round to my home from a company called Train2game. For those of you who don't know about them, train2game offer TIGA endorsed game programmer and game designer courses on a work from home basis. The idea behind his visit is that they only offer the courses to a select few individuals in a given post code area, and after a 2 hour interview about my gaming habits, what I want to do in the industry, why I want to change careers and various other things, he said that he wants to offer me a position on the course and that he needs to know by 10am Monday if I want it.

Unfortunately for me, £135 a month for three years to be able to pay for the course is too rich, so, being unable to get any decent help from the government or parents or anything, I had to decline the course, effectively ending my dream for at least another year. I am still trying to find that dream job but the current economic climate isn't making it any easier.

The morale of the story is this: decide what you want to do with your life quickly. In school I wasn't much of an academic, and the only thing I really decided on was that I wanted to work with computers when I got older. If I had decided I wanted to work in games a lot sooner than I had, I may well have put more effort in, knowing I had to get the grades to get onto a decent course at university to be able to leap into the industry. Alas, I only realised what I really want to do in the last five or so years, which is just about the right time to be way too late.

So kids, decide what you want to do quickly. Take a week out of your life and really look at yourself, what you like to do, what interests you, what makes you happy, and decide to make that career a reality. Hell, if you genuinely want to become a real life pet detective, do it, but decide soon because even though people say you can always re-train, the reality is an expensive and time consuming process that at a point, just isn't viable anymore. Don't make my mistake, take the advice and figure out what you want do soon.

I hope my story has helped and you take away more than 'this guy is a looser' from it. And if anyone from a games studio is reading, I am looking for work right now so please contact me for a copy of my C.V!

Posted by danny_dm_moore, 09/14/2009 9:33am
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hey we're the same age and I just got married too. I wish I could say something like "hang in there, something's gonna happen soon", but since I can't be sure of that I won't. But I agree, kids should figure out what they wanna do early because when they finally wake up it's often too late.
Posted 09/14/2009 10:04am
Sorry to hear that. Keep it real, man.
Posted 09/14/2009 10:07am
Stories like these are really inspiring; even though you didn't land up the desired job, your determination is very much visible all the way through. Hope you get a job as soon as possible (and hopefully, I'll land up with one someday as well) !!!
Posted 09/14/2009 10:08am
Hold on man. This course deal sounds like a scam to me.

Sounds like one of those 'secret shopper' courses you can go to for 150 bucks in the States. They say that after you go to this course, you can get a job as a secret shopper (going to stores and shopping while reviewing customer service and things like that, and getting paid to do it). The thing is that after you pay the $150 bucks you're still not guaranteed to get a job...in fact, most people don't ever get contacted again by this agency...

But your $150 is now their $150.
Posted 09/14/2009 10:11am
It doesn't work that way.. many people who do decide what they want to do quickly.. still end up doing an entirely different job. It's a nice idea that if you work for something and invest your time into it.. you'll be able to be find a successful career in that area. But that's not reality.... and never will be. Sure, it works out for some people, but for most people, it doesn't. As far as the training course goes.. I don't think it would improve your chances of getting into the gaming Industry. It's all about connections.. it really doesn't matter how impressive your resume is.
Posted 09/14/2009 10:20am
Theres nothing wrong with over dressing in an interview setting. Keep your head up and keeping sending those resumes. The best way to get a job is networking. Do you know anyone that is in that industry? The hardest part is getting the foot in the door and the only way to get into an industry like that in this economy is through networking. Think about old friends you went to college with, or distant relatives. You never know who might be willing to help you out!
Posted 09/14/2009 10:27am
Well, in college I quickly learned you don't learn in the class room. You learn by making stuff. Classroom work gives you a good base to read all sorts of texts and learn fundamental programming skills like design patterns, test matrices and such but the real training will happen on your own.

If you really want a job as a game programmer / developer / tester look at the skill set and become a professional at 'doing'. This of course will require you to go through a book or two a month, and using as many of the tools as you can get your hands on. The problem is people want to become something without actually liking the 'work' aspect of it. It doesn't matter how early you choose to do something, but how much time you dedicate into being better than someone else at it. Then you will land the job.

Keep at it if you really want it. Just like a bad paced RPG where you have to grind a lot.
Posted 09/14/2009 10:30am
Life's too short to be sure of anything, ha-ha. I went to college because my mother wanted me to, but I wasn't enthusiastic about it, so I picked an easy career: communications. Oh boy, what a waste of time and money.
Recently, 10 tears after being graduated, I realized I should have studied computer systems. I feel cheated, deceived, and like a fool. I'd like to pause and select restart, but that's not possible.
When you are 18, you do not know a thing about life, and less about what to do with it. Some people get married young, and fail. Some people have children young, and are bad parents.
It's too confusing, because some people seem to have a set destiny, no matter what happens, even if they take good or bad decisions. And some other seem to do not have a place in this life, even though their efforts. Maybe at least what we should know, in the worst case, is what we do NOT want, instead of what we want, because we might delay some time to be sure.
Posted 09/14/2009 10:31am
Keep going. All is not lost yet.
Posted 09/14/2009 10:32am
well, good luck! hope you get to test some of my games, once i get in college and graduate, get a job, get a designer job, and make a game, that is
Posted 09/14/2009 10:33am
I just have one question: Have you worked on any games or team programming projects?
That is really what the interviewer is looking for. I would suggest applying for any beta tests you can find. You don't get paid but it's valuable experience for getting into testing. As far as making a game, on a monthly basis I see craigslist ads looking for people to make games. These are unpaid with the promise of owning a percentage of the whatever game sales. You might be able to get into testing their games. If you want to go further than testing, you either need to learn programming (I assume you know this for IT) or art (game textures, concept art, etc). My degree is in computer science, so I almost exclusively do programming. The ones to know for gaming are Java, C++, C#, and Objective-C (Mac and Iphone). I am not in the game industry, but this is what I found from research when I was interested in it.
Posted 09/14/2009 10:43am
It's not too late for you to retrain and change careers, but you might have more success if you change your strategy and broaden your goals. There are lots of different roles in technology companies besides QA for games companies that you might find more rewarding than what you are doing now. In the UK, your local FE college will probably offer low-cost courses in IT that can get you started learning new skills and help you see whether you think you have the will and the aptitude to go further. The Open University offers distance learning for an IT diploma and a local University might offer part-time courses in Computer Science. It worked for me a couple of years ago and now I work for a multinational technology company. If you haven't already, you might want to check out the careers advice on the British Computer Society's (BCS) website.
Posted 09/14/2009 10:58am
Wow, I can relate man. I turn 29 next month and I am currently working at a job that I don't want to have for the rest of my life. It's okay, but it's just not for me (my heart was never really into it). I've wanted to work in games ever since I got my first system back in the 80's, but I could never find any direction on how to break into the industry. By the time I was finishing college was when I first started to see schools offering game design/programming courses, but by then I had already sunk in 4 years of work and it was too late to change. I wish you the best of luck in your pursuits because I know how it is to feel stuck looking back and saying "If only I had..." I definitely agree with you that kids need to make their career choices early on and, regardless of what ever they choose to do, DO IT BECAUSE YOU LOVE IT, not because you think it will make you rich. Educate yourself and look at the requirements and opportunities available and think long and hard about where you want to be 10 years down the road and what you want to be doing.
Posted 09/14/2009 11:05am
You could always trying getting in via an IT position. Most game companies have many of them.
Posted 09/14/2009 11:24am
i hear that Atlus hire employees at a regular basis,maybe u check it out.
Posted 09/14/2009 11:39am
Yeah I stopped reading after that train wreck of a first paragraph. What you're really searching for is English 101. Proofread before you post something.

And this made it on the soapbox?
Posted 09/14/2009 11:46am
To speak out from the "kids" point of view it doesn't matter what age you decide. I spent most of my life developing a portfolio to get me into college to do just what you have recently decided; make games. I got A's and B's all through high school, I then attended community college because I couldn't afford the four year degree that art schools offer. I took an internship with Disney for Animation, and set my sights on a computer animation degree. When I got home from Disney I quickly realized that I had to pay rent etc., so I finished my classes at my local community college while working two full-time jobs and set my sights on my Bachelors. I finally got approved for my loans and went to school. I had a 3.8 gpa, and some of the best work in my class. Then, after about a year of doing what I had dreamed of my whole life, the economy crashed and Sallie Mae and every other education lending firm declined me for my next batch of loans. I had to sell everything I owned just to make it home without a degree and an A average. Now I'm 17,000 dollars in debt and bartending. I don't even know where to begin now. I'm 25, I did everything right from the beginning, and still couldn't even get a degree. So I guess it doesn't matter what age you start. It'll take me years to build my credit score back up enough to get approved for the loans just to finish school. It's a vicious cycle. Unless you or you're parents are rich, good luck finishing your schooling in this economy.
Posted 09/14/2009 12:07pm
Emoevolution, that's complete BS. 9 time out of 10, if you work hard to get a decent resume built up(such as college, certificates, whatever), AND you push hard for whatever the job is, you can, more than likely, get it. The problem is that you HAVE to be determined, and you have to keep working at it. You can have all the connections in the world, and if you don't have the experience, they won't hire you(guess what, doesn't matter if I know Bill Gates, if I can't program, he's not going to give me the position!)
Posted 09/14/2009 12:16pm
i heard it somewhere it is way harder to get into the industry as a QA tester since most companies looks for experience. but it might easier to get a entry level job if you graduate college with a degree in programming or art design. but i saw a lot of programming job list require a degree in computer science or math, i understand why they need computer science, but math?
Posted 09/14/2009 12:17pm
Nice...... I just go were the wind blows and one day thats going to bit me in the @$$............
Posted 09/14/2009 12:28pm
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